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*A map! I made a map of how the world looked in the early 1800s (probably with one or two errors) that can be easily edited as we get more information about the series, or to better detail an area. A full list of sources and licensing and stuff exists on my talk page.
 
*A map! I made a map of how the world looked in the early 1800s (probably with one or two errors) that can be easily edited as we get more information about the series, or to better detail an area. A full list of sources and licensing and stuff exists on my talk page.
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*It's too early to tell if it'll be read, but I used the "[[Ask Naomi]]" function to see if Naomi has names for all the Chinese Breeds (both English and Chinese), and to find out what happened to [[Vincitatus]] and Mark Anthony after the events of "[[Vici]]". Here's hoping this stuff gets answered! Next month I'll ask about the Celestial family tree!
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== Temeraire's Family Tree ==
 
== Temeraire's Family Tree ==
 
First Version;
 
First Version;

Revision as of 08:39, 21 August 2011

Hey there! I'm Almaron, and I'm a Temeraire Fan who is slightly annoyed that the Wiki for it is incomplete. As a result, I've joined to help out wherever I can. Mostly, I add notes to each section if I find something missing, and every now and then I write an entire page worth of text to fill a blank page. So, basically, I fix the odd bit of information when I feel like it. I generally check this wiki every day, to see if there's something new to work on.

At the moment, no real forum exists for us to debate various parts of the Temeraire canon, and so I've tidied up my user page so we can use the discussion page for that purpose (or so someone can point out a mistake I've made).

Book Synopses

So far, I've written up the synopses for the following books or stories in the Temeraire series;

I wrote these by reading quickly through the books, so there is a chance I have erred in several places, or gone into too much detail making some parts a bit clunky (Parts of Black Powder War could probably do with some tidying up). Feel free to edit them and fix them if you notice a problem. I also typed up the page for the Temeraire Drabbles, but the story text was written by Naomi Novik, not me.

Things I've Worked On

  • Dragon Breeds - The second half of the page; I sorted the breeds by country and weight classification, where known.
  • Temeraire - Added two charts detailing Temeraire's family and Lily's formation, based off the information given in the books and some speculation on my part. They are listed further down the page.
  • Li-Lung - A dragon breed, the page was written based on that the name is known to have been used (Lung Li Po) and that an unnamed purple dragon breed seen in China is a prime candidate for the name; the word Li meaning Plum (as documented by User:Wombat1138).
  • I've suggested that the Shen-Lung page be re-titled, as the other breed names (e.g. Celestial, Imperial, Jade), are all english translations of the Chinese words (Tien, Qin and Yu respectively). At this time, User:Wombat1138 has done research into possible Chinese names for the breeds we only have the English name for; her notes can be seen on the talk pages for Shen-Lung, Emerald Glass, and Scarlet Flower.
  • I've also added a new section to the story pages, noting the specific changes from our history in the Temeraire stories, such as how Nelson survives the Battle of Trafalgar, or how Napoleon Bonaparte invades Britain in 1807, both fictional occurences.
  • I also added various notes about several characters including the Yellow Emperor and Raiden, mentioning how they were based off elements of mythology (The Yellow Emperor turning into a dragon at the end of his realm, and Raiden, a japanese god of thunderstorms thought to be behind the storms that decimated Kublai Khan's fleets).
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  • A map! I made a map of how the world looked in the early 1800s (probably with one or two errors) that can be easily edited as we get more information about the series, or to better detail an area. A full list of sources and licensing and stuff exists on my talk page.
  • It's too early to tell if it'll be read, but I used the "Ask Naomi" function to see if Naomi has names for all the Chinese Breeds (both English and Chinese), and to find out what happened to Vincitatus and Mark Anthony after the events of "Vici". Here's hoping this stuff gets answered! Next month I'll ask about the Celestial family tree!

Temeraire's Family Tree

First Version;

              Unnamed Imperial---M---Unnamed Imperial
                                 |
                                 |
    Unnamed Imperial---M---Lung Tien Xian
                       |    (Grandfather) 
      +----------------+-------------------------+-----------------------------+----------------+ 
      |                                          |                             |                |
Lung Tien Chu---M---Unnamed Imperial   Lung Tien Qian---M---Lung Qin Gao  *Lung Tien Ming  *Lung Tien Zhi
                |                                       |
                |                            +----------+----------+
          Lung Tien Lien                     |                     |
                                       Lung Tien Chuan       Lung Tien Xiang 
                                                              (Temeraire)
  • =Presumed Relation

Second Version;

Two Imperials
|
"Grandfather" (M) - Paired with Dorgon or one of the earlier Emperors
|
+------------------------------------------------------+
Xian (F, Deceased) - Shunzi Emp (1638(50)-1661)       Ming (M) - Kangxi Emp (1654(61)-1722)
|                                                      +
+--------------------------------------------+        Zhi (M) - Qianlong Emp (1711(35)-17(96)99
Qian (F) - Yongzheng Emp (1678(1722)-1735)  Chu (M) - Jiaqing Emp (1760(96)-1820)
|                                                +
+--------------------------------------------+  Lien (F) - Prince Yongxing
Chuan (M) - Daoguang Emp (1782(1820)-1850)  Xiang (M) - William Laurence
Reasoning for this;
  • Because in this reasoning, Grandfather was the first Celestial of the Qing Dynasty, I have assumed that all the Celestials have been Imperial Consorts. Hence, Qian must be the elder of Chu.
  • This rendition suits Qian's words more, in that they are all cousins at most. In the previous chart, Only Lien, Chu & Temeraire were cousins, the rest were siblings.
  • The placement of the Emperors is conjectural, and based on guessing who would be the elder sibling. The brackets around numbers indicate the start of their reign.
  • Ming and Zhi's placement is conjectural, they could be siblings, or one could be the father of the other, which I think is more likely.

Third Version/s

Two Imperials
|
Grandfather (Xian) (M)
|
+-----------------+                       
Ming? (M)        Zhi? (M)
|
+------------------------+
Qian (F)                Chu (M)
|                        |
+-------------+          |
Chuan (M)   Xiang (M)   Lien (F) 

Con: Not as many cousins as Qian mentions.

Two Imperials
|
Grandfather (Xian) (M)
|
+------------------------+                       
Ming? (M)               Zhi? (M)
|                        |
|                        |
Qian (F)                Chu (M)
|                        |
+-------------+          |
Chuan (M)   Xiang (M)   Lien (F) 

Pro: Better suits Qian's statement that "they are all cousins", and also shows each "adult" Celestial has had at least one child, as would be assumed for a family this old. Cons: In this, Lien is not an "elder cousin" to Temeraire.

Fourth and Final Version;

Two Imperials
|
|
Grandfather(Lung Tien Xian)(M)
|
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Lung Tien Qian(F)                                                        Lung Tien Chu(M)
|                                                                        |
+------------------+                               +                     |
Lung Tien Chuan(M) Lung Tien Xiang(Temeraire)(M)   Lung Tien Ming? (M)   Lung Tien Lien(F)
                                                   |
                                                   |
                                                   Lung Tien Zhi? (M)

Positioning in Lily's Formation

                           Lily
             Messoria                  Immortalis
      Dulcia       Maximus      Temeraire       Nitidus